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I’m pretty sure the Australian Ds had them as well, try putting a message out on Aussiefrogs forum.
Thanks for the tips guys. I’m some way off tackling cosmetic issues, or maybe that would be a useful distraction from the more serious oily bits!
Impressive Paul, do you think the crinkle finish from VHT paint looks original in black? I’ll need to do my dash at some point.
25th November 2022 at 6:04 pm in reply to: How to restore the rubber cover on steering column? #8718The top of my dashboard looked like that, dry and not far from cracking up. I give it a clean with a damp cloth and then rubbed vaseline into it. A couple of appplications and it’s come up looking graet.
So in conclusion a valuation from the CCC is not worth the paper it’s written on as the value is so subjective?
Rather that a CCC valuation will take account of the large variation in values depending on model and condition? And I presume these valuations are based on what you’d get for a private sale rather than dealer or auction.
Peter, I didn’t mean my post to impugn your motives and I hope you didn’t intepret that way. I understand circumstances change and there should be a difference in price between auction and private sale. A non-Pallas 21 carb BVH is my ideal spec DS, it even has a webasto roof, although I’d hold out for the second dashboard version! Your car certainly looks in top condition and I hope you get a good price for it.
Specialist dealer v local auction will always show the biggest price difference, but I agree the price gap between two near identical black cars is crazy, maybe someone is willing to pay an extra £30k for black leather…As for the white abomination, I saw the price dropped £2k recently, but looking at the amount of filler in the C post, blow over paint job and dodgy panel gaps (even for a D) it has hidden horrors written all over it. I think £33k for the green one is optomistic given it’s colour, if it sells for about £28k that’s probably about right in the current market.
Mighty impressed Peter, electrickery scares the bejesus out of me. I did manage to refit the cigarette lighter to mine without burning the car down, but that was a one wire connection.
Milestone indeed. Looking forward to seeing shiny bits going back in.
Ian
RHD cars should have the pipes from the rear silencer exiting at the LH side of the bumper at the rear of the car as opposed to the bent pipes on LHD cars which come out just behind the LH rear wheel. The ‘rough road’ pipes from CC do away with the rear silencer to increase effective ground clearance and reduce vulnerability to damage. I’ve not seen anywhere that sells the correct RHD rear silencer?
That’s my set-up John, just had a look, straight through pipes with no rear silencer.
Ah…..the perils of an early morning web browsing and messaging. I’m muddling your new purchase with a message on Facebook about a Portugese purchase.perhaps i should leave Facebook to remove the risk of muddle?
Your ‘D Super’ is descended from the preceding ID20. I once had a LHD Paris-built 1969 ID19b – which became the ‘DSpecial’. The story is that it was bought in Paris by a Welshman, heading to Egypt to teach English. I bought it from his son. It was the most basic ‘Luxe’ model and no clock, manual steering, fixed lights, a very basic heater set-up and a single piston hydraulic pump. It also had that big foam seal. perhaps not inappropriate for dusty Egypt?
Paul
Noticed another difference after looking at exhaust parts online. Mine exit just left of centre, not by the left wheel. I thought his was just poor aftermarket fitment but that’s the correct way for ‘rough roads’ according to Citroen Classics.
Thaks for those tips Peter, very helpful. Going to attend to a few other issues before having a go at that.
Ian
To quote Derek from Vice Grip Garage ‘Well I’ll be dipped’. Plan A for the fuelling problem was blowing through the line from the pump end, no joy. Plan B was to drain the tank with my newly acquired transfer pump and remove the in-tank filter, expcept the 1.2 metres of tube it came with wasn’t quite long enough to reach into the tank. So plan C, just whip the filter out anyway, pop the nut back in and catch any fuel that came out in a bowl. So plan C it was and the filter was clean as a whistle, a bit of flaky crud came out with all of about 200ml of petrol!
I hooked it up direct to a can of petrol and it fired instantly. Putting the 5 litres from the can in the tank and it idled away happily and ran fine up and down hill in the neighbourhood. So it looks like there just wasn’t enough petrol in it with it being parked left had side to the curb. Someone on Aussiefrogs had warned me about this with RHD cars and parking on the left, but I was convinced there was enough petrol in it.
What’s odd is the fuel gauage is showing just under half full. Let’s say 25 litres, as I’d added 5 litres, having 20 litres in the tank beforehand still wasn’t enough to account for the camber on my road. Could be tank baffles not baffling I guess. A split in the rislan tube is a possibility, but the tube was right at the bottom of the tank and it ran on less than a quarter of a tank when I picked it up, which suggests that’s okay. I’ll brim the tank tomorrow and see exactly how much she takes. Anyway, thanks for the warm welcome everyone and I’m sure I’ll be back soon with more questions…
Are you on facebook ian? Simon Broadhurst bought a 1967 ID/ DS from Portugal a few years ago and drove it back to the UK. There was a Citroen factory in Portugal and on his cars he has noticed a number of differences to the French cars.
For a start, his body colour (a dark green) was unusual for the 1967 year. He also mentioned that the door glass was not French made. I think the little etchings in the corner were diamond shaped and the glass may have come from Spain?
I don’t know whether the Portuguese factory was still assembling ds in the 70s or just importing them from France as kits. Any clues on your car? I’ve also seen some interesting boot lid badges on portuguese cars.
I’m not on Facebook Paul out of professional principle! Anyway, I think mine is Paris built for the New Zealand market as they stopped importing from Slough in 65. As far as I know NZ cars were never imported from the Heidelberg factory in Australia, but this had closed by 66 anyway. The chassis plate suggests Paris. I’ve heard there were some differences for D series cars for the export market. Mine has chrome internal doorhandles and window winders, the French market ones are white I think. It has power steering and directional lights (but not self levelling). This was an option in 1970 for the D Super but could have been fitted as standard. Four speed manual rather than the optional close ratio five speed. The button brake rather than pedal (I think this was common for all D RHD cars). It’s got the big foam boot seal rather than rubber strips, could have been retro-fittted, but I read somewhere these were fitted to ‘dusty climate’ cars (don’t know if NZ would qualify). I’ve not checked the glass but I’ve not spotted any other differences. So it looks like a Paris built export spec 1970 D Super with power steering. Bleu Platine was an D/DS colour but only for 1970 I think.
welcome, lovely looking car – the blue and black interior is a nice combo… your journey of DS ownership starts now!
Thanks Robert. I like the black and white, there’s an identical car to mine on the nuancier site and it has the same trim, although I’ve not seen it on the repro kits. There’s mention in the history of a ‘reupolstery’ but it’s litetally one word and judgning by the look, feel (and smell) of mine it’s original.
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