[Steve McKeown]

Thanks for doing the research Paul. A few clues there on why the reaction on the roof. I am happier that it is back to the all Bleu Platiné look.

[Steve McKeown]

Before and After photos. The black seal around the edge is a lot neater. Back to original colour scheme

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Paul. I found a paint shop recommended by an independent Citroen garage. He has many years experience of repainting fire glass roofs. He has started working on it already and says it will come up fine, though it will take a while. He has already prepped the roof and metal; underneath the seal (the metal had a little bit of rust but not bad at all; I never had problems with the cant rail water, etc.). After looking into the facts around the original paint job and going on your advise I have gone for a Bleu Platine roof as well as the body. That got me looking at the wheels and wheel trims which, according to what I have read, are not the originals. I will set up another topic to ask questions about those!

[Steve McKeown]

You are right Paul, I have documentation that shows that the car was first on the road 28 Jan 1971, and the number in the engine bay suggests that it was one of the very first “1971” D Supers even though it was built Autumn 1970. I am happy with the Gris Rose roof and I have enough evidence to suggest that it could have been the original colour, and it also matches the headlight housing.

Going back to the the sealant, should I paint the Sikaflex sealant the same colour as the roof, or would the sealant have originally been applied after the roof was painted. If the latter, what would the colour of the sealant been? You say that you do not have the same roof as me, so maybe you do not know.

Thanks for you invaluable help.

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Paul. On the issue of the original colour of the roof of a D Super built in 1970 like mine, in the Original Citroen by Reynolds and de Lange on page 138 they say, “For the 1970 model only with the introduction of the DSpecial and DSuper, the former always had a Blanc Cygne roof while the latter had a limited number of matching or contrasting colours.” I assumed that my contrasting colour has always been Gris Rose. Is there a way of finding out? In the engine bay is only the one paint tag with the code AC632 for Bleu Platine. In cars with contrasting roofs would one normally expect to see a code for the roof too? The plastic housings for the headlights are also Gris Rose. Also, after removing the front wings a few months ago I noticed that someone had written “Gris Rose” on part of the wing that is normally not seen.

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Justin/Peter. I have made some progress in identifying experienced and competent paint shops. What brand of mastic should I buy. Is there a recommended make? Also is it de rigeur to use black or do people use other colours? My roof is Gris Rosé AC136; the old mastic is black. The main body of the car is Bleu Platiné.

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Peter. That’s the great thing thing about Ds, nothing is straightforward and there is always something to spend lots of cash on! You’ve convinced me on not going for the vinyl roof. I have spoken to a garage that does TVRs, etc. and will take it to them next week, just for an opinion. My roof does not seem to have cracks but does have little measles, for want of a better word. If the quote is too high I do not think that I will do it, as when I bought the car I did not notice it and the roof does not leak; cant rail is dry. Though the seal around the edge could do with replacing as it does not look very neat. Thanks again for sharing your expertise. Steve

[Steve McKeown]

I sorted out the foam for the back seat. I bought 40H blue High Density foam. I bought trim board and used the old board as a stencil. I was about to order the hog ring tool, but found someone with that tool who helped me do it. All done now and it does feel comfortable. Good for another 50 years. Thanks for the tips Paul and Peter.

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Paul. Just out at the moment. I have been away for a few days but get back tonight, so will have look then. Hopefully there will still be places left by the time I respond. Thanks for thinking of me. Steve

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Peter. To get the seized bolts off the heat shield would you recommend any treatment (heat, lubricant)?

Also, I have had the car 15 months. In that time it has always started first time… until the other day when the starter motor did not engage until I rocked the car when in gear. Would you recommend a new one at the same time as replacing the engine mounts? Does the exhaust manifold have to come off too when fitting a new starter motor?

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks for your encouragement. I have got my head around the taking off the cover and re-attaching it with hog rings. It is just the choosing and the cutting of the foam, which is a bit of an unknown. I will take the cover off as far as the arm rest (that does not need doing) and see what it looks like. Then I will try to source foam as similar as possible to the original.

[Steve McKeown]

Thanks Paul and Peter. I am in Liverpool. There is an autotrim business fairly near to me who could do it but he is very busy and I was hoping to drive to France for a short break soon, Covid restrictions permitting. I am near DS Workshop at Stagg Hill tomorrow, so will take the seat to show Jamie. He is busy too but if he gives me a few pointers maybe I will tackle it myself or I will wait for when he can slot me in.

The foam has turned to dust, so it all need replacing. I went to a place in Sandbach called Martrim that stocks all kinds of stuff for auto upholstery, but they did not have the exact foam for the DS, I guess it is no longer available. They did have the millboard/trimboard that fits on the back of the seat, however. The old back was hanging off so I pulled it off and used it as a stencil for a replacement.

I have had the D Super for over a year and have done a few jobs myself. I am not at all a practical person, so am teaching myself slowly. I have heard that there have been tech weekends in previous years. These would have been useful for me, but are out of the question this year I guess.

[Steve McKeown]

You are right. It was a dodgy earth connection. I missed the earth connection on the right hand (passenger) side of my left hand drive car. It was just a lead that needed connecting. In addition, two bulbs had failed in the process of removing and refitting, which complicated things. Thanks for the help.

[Steve McKeown]

My car also has dimpled roof. It is also a D Super (built end 1970, I believe); first on the road Jan 1971.I read in a Citroen book that D Supers of that age sometimes came with roof clouds contrasting with the body. Mine is Bleu Platine (AC632) and the roof is a kind of light grey (almost silvery). How do I found out if the roof colour is original? Probably impossible? Do cars with contracting body and roof normally have two discs (one for each colour) in the engine bay? Back to the roof … is it a relatively inexpensive paint job. Does it have to be a specialist DS garage that does it. The Cant rail may need replacing on mine too.

[Steve McKeown]

I forgot to show the pictures of the refurbished wings. The wiring looks like it is all in place but maybe some of the bulbs may have been damaged during the refurbishment. I will struggle on. Horn works, indicators work. Headlights and sidelights not.

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